A Gay Gamer Convention is NOT Necessary (Gaymercon 2013)

A Gay Gamer Convention is NOT Necessary (Gaymercon 2013)


GaymerCon.  No, I’m not kidding.  This is really happening.  And I think it’s complete and utter BS.  Let me explain why.

Gaming is for everyone.  The virtual reality you choose to emerse yourself in is for YOU.  If you don’t like a server you’re playing on, the leave.  If you don’t like the gameplay or graphics of a game, then don’t play it.  It is completely up to you and in your hands.  And common ground for gamers is…..fucking gaming.  When did this become a sexual issue?  When did gaming turn from being a form of entertainment to be enjoyed by the masses alone or with fellow gamers, to an issue of whether someone likes to pound guys or girls?  WTF?  More specifically, let me get to a few Gaymercon arguments I find utterly off balance.

Jim (who I mostly adore) from Destructiod wrote on the issue in his article titled: “The Importance of a gay gamer convention”.

He may like the sausage as well as tacos from time to time, but once again, what does that have to do with gaming?  Feelings of isolation because of sexual preference has nothing to do with gaming.  It is a cry to be recognized and understood.  I am not saying I have a problem with anyone in the LGBT community, but why is this the one central issue you care so much about?  Why are you forcing everyone around you into your bedroom?  Who cares?  I sure don’t.  And the majority of human beings don’t care either.  If you are a decent human being and go home behind closed doors and bang Brandon, I don’t care.  Likewise, if you go home and wack off to Jenna Jameson, I could give even less of a shit.  But when you hint in public your “behind closed doors” activities, that’s where the problem lies.

And Jim, your comparison between being a different race and being gay is weak-sauce.  I’m not saying someone chooses to be gay, much like someone doesn’t choose their skin color or heritage.  I’m saying all gamers are welcome to game.  Everyone is entitled to have a blast in their favorite game.  What do sexual urges have to do with gaming, and why does everyone have to hear about it?

Below is the Kickstarter video to promo Gaymercon 2013.  To fully understand the video below, let me help you:

LGBT = Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual & Transgender.  And yes, it is that colorful.

Safe spaces for Gay Nerds

Get over yourself.  If you were a true gamer you wouldn’t care about this babbling bullshit.  Your “safe space” is the vitrual real estate you occupy when you’re in the middle of a gaming session.  And that’s it.  If sexual orentation comes into your gaming time, then you have a few screws loose.

I have no problem gaming with gays, straights or anyone for that matter.  Who cares?  All I care about when gaming is……..GAMING.  If you’re looking for a relationship while on an online server, then you may be barking up the wrong tree.  The thing that really annoys me is that this comes from the notion that sexual orientation has anything at all to do with gaming.  It does not.  This is as absurd as stating I only feel safe watching movies with men that bang their wives every night.  What the fuck does this have to do with enjoying a movie?  Nothing.  It is just a movie!

I am a Veteran, and that makes me unique.  But do you know the difference from a group of Veterans organizing or getting together for an event, it has nothing to do with what type of porn we like to watch.  It is about the fact that we served that connects us.  And with gamers, the fact that we game should be enough to connect us as well.

Batman, Spiderman, Thor and The Hulk making out is not something I want to witness (or anyone should have to witness unless they want their childhood ruined), and I think the majority of gamers think this is too much as well.

Blast me, or agree below….


Airborne Gamer
Airborne Gamer
Gaming is my medicine and writing is my drug. Is it making sense now? "WELCOME TO WARP ZONE!"
105 comments
CocteauBoy
CocteauBoy

A gaymer con is definitely necessary. To pretend that there are no differences among us, and no necessity for honoring those differences, means succumbing to the presumptions and prejudices of the more dominant majority. We are not a homogenization. We are a culture made up of various groups made up of individuals.

I think it's crucial for any minority who shares in similar struggles, pain, isolation, and fights against inequalities, hatred, violence, and oppression to create this kind of visible support and bonding. You may not relate to this, but that doesn't mean the necessity doesn't exist.

In NYC, we have all kinds of celebrations and events and gatherings to emphasize various peoples, cultures, histories, etc. These kinds of specialized events and gatherings aren't for segregating or separating from the population, but for celebrating the common history, strengths, and experiences within those groups, and for bringing more visibility of these groups to the greater population. They are an invitation for even greater understanding of our differences and common ground among all of the groups who make up the larger groups.

Being inclusive means being welcoming and comfortable with our differences as well as our common grounds, even celebrating and supporting those, but not to ignore them.

Gaymer Con is necessary because it represents a minority who are more often subject to homophobia, bigotry, assault, isolation, misunderstanding, misrepresentation, and constant insult or threats not just within the world, but in the gaming community, as well. Just log in to any multiplayer and it won't be long before you hear a derogatory slur against gay people (and many other minorities). 

So, come on... if you want to support inclusivity, then support the necessity for any minority who wishes to bring some strength, connection, and healing to their struggling and scattered people.

Zoa
Zoa

Sure, a gay gaming convention isn't *needed*.

But neither are motorcycles, video games, pop, chewing gum, and toilet paper.

It's as if this pointless article was made just because Gaymercon's existence is relatively popular, trending news in the gaming world at the moment, and you just want to cash in on page views by bashing it with practically no sound reasoning behind your argument as to *why* it shouldn't exist, other than "Well, I just don't like it."

HarlequinHeartz
HarlequinHeartz

Do you enjoy anime? Yes/no? If no, do you hate people who like anime? No? Would you consider it wrong, then for people who have a different preference from you on how they spend their time, since it isn't what you plan on doing?

It's a gaymer con, but they completely welcome everyone, which they say so on their Kickstarter as well as homepages. While CALLED gaymercon, they seek to have a gaming convention that doesn't think calling people 'noobs' or fags is funny, or that gaming isn't a girls thing. What they want to do is have a gaming convention where the entire point is to meet the kind of open, yet socially isolated, people that they want.

Have a problem with it? How about you just follow your own suggestion, and ignore it, just like you think gays should do with the online hate speech :D

letummorsmortis
letummorsmortis

I have to agree with the author of this article as it is not needed. I have been on games where you can turn off the chat box and I never game where players can be heard.The only real bashing I have come across has been against new players or 'noobs' who are harassed a lot by seasoned players.and yes I have seen a lot of players use the term 'gay' or 'fag'. I however never used it in such manners as gay means 'happy' and fag was a kind of cigarettes in Britten(iirc).

but all in all I have to agree don't like the server jump to another one. don't like the game then don't play it.this just more or less shoves their life style in your face.you are homosexual good for you. because I and many others don't give a damn who you screw in your bedroom.

dudedude001
dudedude001

The gaming community is hostile and you have to learn to ignore it. It's not only homophobic but also racist, yet I still don't see any black con.

JeremyKuehnau
JeremyKuehnau

I agree with everything you've said. I feel being homosexual is almost becoming a commercial thing these days. Why is there such a huge importance on sexual preference these days? What ever happened to just being people? It's no one's business but your own who you are fucking, so why MAKE it anyone else's business?I think this GaymerCon thing is completely and utterly rubbish. I'd like to take a moment to point out to everyone using gay bashing as an excuse, to get over it. Even before homosexuality was prominent in society, people were still using "gay" and "fag" as insults (including myself) and it was never intended to be directed as a derogatory term to homosexuals.It's offensive because you choose to let it be offensive.Now stop being such faggots and just game. 

wolfkin
wolfkin

I concur with you but homosexuality is a hot button issue meaning you're either on the nazi side or anti-nazi side. In short while your argument are perfectly valid the environment is such that if you don't support this you're essentially anti-supporting it. If my made up words make sense. It will be interesting to see how they accept rejection because any company that shows up gets to blast us with how pro-gay they are and any company that doesn't show up gets to looks 'suspiciously anti-gay'.

A black gamer convention similarly makes no sense. Unique to the minorities that affect your gaming experience is gender. Girl gamers are pretty much the only 'visible minorities' of gaming. A girl speaks and you know it's a girl. They have actual issues. They can argue the need for safe spaces.

SilkBD
SilkBD moderator

For the record, I'm a big fan of Lesbians... not the ugly ones though.

AKilbo
AKilbo

"If you don’t like a server you’re playing on, the leave. If you don’t like the gameplay or graphics of a game, then don’t play it. It is completely up to you and in your hands"

You should take your own advice. If you don't like a gay gaming convention.. don't go. 

srzg
srzg

All a Gaymer convention does is breed separation in place of integration.

love from CE

Spedfrom
Spedfrom

Instead of writing all that you could have solved this very succinctly. For example, you could have just typed: I'm a raging bigot and don't want the gays gathering for a gaming convention as I'm afraid they might monopolize my favorite past-time with their weird and disgusting ways.

You're not fooling anyone, your homophobia shines through like a beacon for the poor of mind.

Yinello
Yinello

If gaming is as you say for everyone, then I don't see why there can't be a gay gamer convention. They wanted their own convention and set one up, and hey you're allowed to attend too! Oh you don't want the gay gamers to set up a convention? Well perhaps then you feel gaming is not for everyone, if you feel the need to restrict gay gamers this way.

Honestly, it sounds a whole lot like you're angry because they decided to put a certain gamer group in the spotlight, and this isn't your group and now you feel left out. Don't worry, you don't have to invite them to your birthday party either.

JaredHarris
JaredHarris

All I can say is what the fuck. Seriously, what the fuck does sexuality have to do with your gaming? Not a GODDAMN THING. What's next, a GameCon for those of strictly African descent? How about a Con for the retarded? Yeah, it's brilliant! All I'm saying is that you don't need a Con specifically for Gays, Blacks, Jews, Cripples, Retards, Normies, or Neckbeards. That said, fuck making everything about sexuality, and fuck bronies.

Bengali
Bengali

Gaming is for everyone as you said, you gaming is for gays too. Given the amount of 'you are a gay' insults found on the internet I think it is time for a Gaymercon. And if you think deep into your brain, it is like any other Convention out there: Do we really need any at all ? If answer is yes, we definitely need more gay conventions (because being anti-gay is still a way of living in the US).

MartinB105
MartinB105

Unless this is a way for gay people to find partners who share their interests in videogames, then I just don't see the point.Otherwise, my primary complaint regarding this event has nothing to do with catering to the gay community and everything to do with the exclusion of everyone else.  No-one ever excluded gay people from attending E3 or any of the other major gaming events.  You don't see straight people holding a gaming event to the exclusion of gay people do you?

HunkHandsome
HunkHandsome

The dumbest thing I´ve heard in a long time. WoW :/

shofoo
shofoo

Can you blame the guy? He saw a niche in the market and went for it. You know how much money the gays throw at stuff? Ya this is only going to get larger and larger. He is going to make lots of money. Good for you Glen Coco!

dxb13
dxb13

"If sexual orentation comes into your gaming time, then you have a few screws loose."

You're completely right dude. Clearly all gamers are very chaste. They would never talk about how they might wanna fuck Ada Wong, or even how Ada Wong, Laura Croft, and Chung Lee should have a threesome. No, sexual orientation would never come up as a topic while gaming. Why would it? It's not like the women in video games are hypersexualized or anything.

Yukichin
Yukichin

It's not a "sexual issue". There's more to gay people than just liking the same sex, and to boil it down to solely that--as if that's the only thing we live for--is insulting.

The fact is, nerd culture as a whole is rather homophobic. It's getting better, but go into any online game and look at the insults used: "gay". "Homo". "Faggot". Look at the lack of protagonists in gaming as a whole that aren't straight, white men. Hell, people are more comfortable playing as women than as gay men.

Trying to act insulted that someone won't hide the fact that they're gay is offensive. Listen to any conversation in a public area: "oh, my girlfriend said..."; "oh, I was out with my wife..."; "I have a date with Randy tomorrow!". It's no more "in your face" than homosexuality; the only difference is that homosexuality is less common.

Besides, since when does a convention made for a specific set of people have to cater to /your/ interests? I could use your entire argument to form another idea: why do we even have gaming conventions? We're all humans; you don't need to shove your nerdiness into my face. Or, on another hand, why do we have websites created specifically for Japanese games, or RPGs, or sports games or horror games? They're all video games; you don't need to bring anything more into them.

Nobody's forcing sexual orientation into gaming. It's already in there, just because that's part of life. Nobody's trying to make a political statement here; they're just trying to create a space where they can hang out with people that might be more similar to them than other groups. This entire article is part of the reason some people think a gay gamer convention would be nice: to create a place where gay gamers--who in most cases DO go through some things the majority of the people do not--can be around people who understand them in some ways others don't.

MaxxTheSlash
MaxxTheSlash

Gay gamers don't need a separate convention. You don't see black people holding Black Gamer conventions, or Christian gamers holding Christion Gamer conventions. If they want to celebrate their pride in being gay or lesbian, great, but do it at a bar, club or a convention specifically for about being gay. If they want a convention for gaming, go to one of the ones we already have and mingle with gamers or any race, creed, gender or sexual orientation. Like E3 or Penny Arcade Expo. Stop being all in our faces about being gay buy somehow NEEDING a convention for gay and lesbian gamers. No one gives a flying **** if you're gay or lesbian. Knowing which gender you like doesn't get me through my day, so I'd like to not know it, so stop pretending I should care. And leave sexual orientation out of gaming, unless it concerns each sexual orientation equally.

JeremyKuehnau
JeremyKuehnau

@Zoa There's a difference between a useful item that serves a purpose and a pointless, useless convention that is doing exactly what they don't want to do, segregate the gaming community.Homosexuals need to learn and understand not everyone is going to be comfortable with their way of life, some people view it as going against nature.By having a convention directly aimed at homosexuals (or the like), they are making it blatantly obvious who they are going to be catering to. They say the convention is open to everyone, but there are going to be people who will NOT want to attend simply because of the theme and intention of it. The action in itself is segregating the the gaming community based on sexuality.It's unnecessary because it's not needed, we don't need to think about or worry about a person's gender at a convention. There's no reason to expose people to anything like that unless it's something they want to be exposed to.Keep your faggotism to yourself. I don't run down the streets screaming "I love pussy", we don't need a convention full of homos.

Airborne Gamer
Airborne Gamer moderator

@Zoa If you're implying that Video games, pop, and ass wiping paper is not "needed" then you sir need help.  Ohh, and thank you for your pageview, Mission Accomplished!

Airborne Gamer
Airborne Gamer moderator

@HarlequinHeartz Hello, I'm hosting a White only Party.  (Blacks welcome).  And calling someone a Noob Fag is possibly the best one-liner in a multiplayer session, fyi...

Airborne Gamer
Airborne Gamer moderator

@Yinello Correction sir.  I will invite them to my birthday party, because I would never have a birthday party for non-gay men and women only!

SilkBD
SilkBD moderator

@Bengali Sometimes I play a female avatar in MMOs.  Does that make me a gamer girl? 

Yes, as far as anyone else is concerned, it does because that is what I'm projecting.

Do I think I'm a gamer girl... only if I'm really sucking at the game.

It gender issues has no place in gaming, it doesn't apply.

Airborne Gamer
Airborne Gamer moderator

@Bengali "it is like any other Convention out there"  Really?  I was unaware of this fact, thank you for pointing it out to me.

Yukichin
Yukichin

@MartinB105 Nobody's excluding anybody: straight gamers are perfectly welcome to the convention. Gaymercon is a gathering of people who share the same interests, and most probably a gathering of people who have a shared interest in games with representation of LGBT characters and lives. 

dxb13
dxb13

Furthermore, if you don't care, then why did you write a whole argument against the idea?

Momir
Momir

@MaxxTheSlash While I personally don't feel such a big need for a gaymer convention, I understand. I also bet that we'd see BlackGamer Convention or Christian Gamer Convention if insults such as "kill that nigga", "you fu**in nigger noob", "you christian scum" were as common as gay-insults are in the gaming world. Why is sexual orientation so important to some straight people anyway? They whole life centers around someone-other's sexuality so they can't get those gay-insults out of their mouth.

letummorsmortis
letummorsmortis

@HarlequinHeartz 

No there is no need to have such an event as all it is doing is  singling themselves out from everyone else and to me it makes it seem like they are saying they are better then heterosexuals and need their own event even though the normal events are clearly for everyone and no need to single a type of person/s out.

I am a RPG player offline and online and I reallllly don't care whom someone likes to bang in their bedroom nor do any players on line.

I and many others only care if someone gets them killed in a event or boss fight and that's about it.

As far as I know I have never seen in any open chat where people go around asking people who they like to screw.

It is like Airborne said people would be up in arms is it was an all white event or a all    straight event and homosexuals are welcomed.

can you imagine how many protesters and human rights groups would show up for something like that? 

SilkBD
SilkBD moderator

@miracleorange TIL that gamer girls and gaymers have difficulty identifying humor.

AKilbo
AKilbo

@Airborne Gamer More so. You call this convention BS. You say that sexual orientation doesn't matter. You're wrong. Go online with pretty much any competitive game and try and go an hour without having to sit through being called a derogatory name. Homophobia is rampant in online games. Sure, most of it is "harmless", or so the person saying these things would say. Still, it can be a offensive place to be when all you want to do is game.

So some people decide they want to get together with like minded people. who are you to call BS on it? 

wolfkin
wolfkin

@Momir I'd like to co-sign on Sokolov. I don't play on a 360 and I don't really play FPS for H2H fighters so I don't get a lot of online talking but my friends who do suggest that it's not all that friendly to the black gamer.

The only real difference between us in the gaming sphere that I can see is that homosexuals are popular and black people aren't. :shrug: i guess the 90s are over.

Sokolov
Sokolov

@Momir Don't know if you've played many games online on consoles but you'll hear all of that pretty regularly within a few hours. 

EarlCameron
EarlCameron

@AKilbo wait, something on the web comes of as immature..GTFO the internet!

SilkBD
SilkBD moderator

@AKilbo I disagree.  It IS humor... and it IS funny.  And it IS appropriate given the article the comment is attached to.

I wouldn't say it's off color... I would even go far as to say it included ALL the colors.

AKilbo
AKilbo

@SilkBD That's the problem SilkBD, comments like that aren't humour. You have to realize that even if you find something like that funny, a lot of people wont. It comes off as crass and immature. Especially when you are a moderator for a gaming website. It's off colour comments like that you should be looking for as the moderator. 

SilkBD
SilkBD moderator

@AKilbo @Airborne Gamer Aww, did the little 12 year old potty mouth hurt your feelings?

Grow some skills and beat his ass to a pulp... that's how you deal with it.

Or you could simply just be offended, cry a little, and create a gaymer convention where you can all cry together about the 12 year old potty mouth.

Either way, enjoy.

Airborne Gamer
Airborne Gamer moderator

@AKilbo You sir are a gentleman and a scholar, thank you for your honest input :)

AKilbo
AKilbo

@Airborne Gamer There is a segment of your gaming community that is constantly being ridiculed. Someone doesn't have to come out and say what their orientation is for them to com under attack online. It is a persistent thing. 

Muting and ignoring online bullies doesn't make them go away. Ignorance doesn't breed acceptance. 

Sex matters online because people use it as a tool for hurting others. 

I disagree with your post because I think this convention does matter. I think it's good that the gay community is getting a chance to have their own convention where they can feel safe to play without fear of discrimination. Where they can help educate people about issues facing gay gamers. 

I don't feel that it should be marginalized or brushed off as unnecessary. 

So you are more than welcome to your opinion, obviously. I would just like to put it out there, and to you, than things like this, have the potential to do more good. Bringing both gay and straight gamers together. Than it does to harm or segregate the gaming community as a whole.

Airborne Gamer
Airborne Gamer moderator

@AKilbo Why does sex matter when gaming again? 

More so. 

Have you heard of mute sir?